Thursday, March 10, 2011

New Internal Evidence for PA (V) John Smoother without PA?!

Daniel Buck on TC-Alternate-List has laid out problem with omitting the PA. It turns out that contrary to the claims of those wanting to omit it, John does not read any 'smoother', or fit together better without the PA:
"John chapter 7 shifts scene and speaker several times:
Version A: With PA in Place:

v. 1-9      Dialog between Jesus and his brothers in Galilee
v 10-13   Jews looking for Jesus in Jerusalem
v. 14-24  Jesus and the Jews in Jerusalem
v. 25-27  Jews to each other in Jerusalem
v. 28-30  Jesus to the Jews at the temple
v. 31-32  Jews who heard him to each other near the Pharisees
v. 33-34  Jesus to the Jews
v. 35-36  Jews who heard him to each other
v. 37-39  Jesus to the Jews on the last day of the feast
v. 40-44  People who heard him to each other
               - Jesus now certainly absent from the scene -
v. 45-49   Pharisees, guards to each other at Pharisee HQ (see v. 32)
v. 50-52   Pharisees, Nicodemus to each other
v. 53        Pharisees, guards leave the scene

                - Jesus comes back on the scene -
8: 1         Jesus goes to Mount of Olives & back to temple
8: 2         Jesus present teaching people at temple
8: 3-9      Scribes and Pharisees with Jesus at temple
8: 10-11  Jesus, the woman taken in adultery (and left)
8: 12       Jesus to the people in the temple
8: 13-20  Pharisees and Jesus in the temple treasury



Version B: Now See what happens when you take out 7:53-8:11:

v. 35-36  Jews who heard him to each other
v. 37-39  Jesus to the Jews on the last day of the feast
v. 40-44  People who heard him to each other
                - Jesus now certainly absent from the scene -
v. 45-49   Pharisees, guards to each other at Pharisee HQ (see v. 32)
v. 50-52   Pharisees, Nicodemus to each other
                          - - - PA deleted - - - -
8: 12       Jesus to the people in the temple (no entrance!)
8: 13-20  Pharisees and Jesus in the treasury

Jesus speaking "again" in v. 12 must either refer to the people in v. 8:2, or all the way back to the people in v. 7:37-44. Everything in v. 45-53 intrudes on the context, without the PA there.

Notice how Bibles that leave out v. 2 have to mistranslate v. 12 to make sense of it.

Daniel Buck

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