https://lifechangers.org/teachings/kingdom-father-church-mother/

In this message called, Kingdom as Father and Church as Mother, Bob shares about a journey to find the Father and the tension that often arises between the church and the Kingdom. Many times in seeking the Kingdom, we find the church and foundations are built on the church can be shaken. At these junctures in our journey, a choice must be made to follow Jesus to Father and find refuge in the Kingdom.